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PIPER PA-24-400 "SUPER" COMANCHE TWIN TURBO WITH ROBERTSON STOL !!!!
ONE OF A KIND, SOME DAMAGE,
CHEAP !!!!!
THE 400 COMANCHE WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF PIPER OWNER "PUG"
PIPER"S DESIRE TO HAVE THE FASTEST PISTON SINGLE IN PRODUCTION !!
BY
MODIFYING AND REINFORCING THE PA-24-250, AND ADDING PARTS FROM THE PA-30 TWIN
COMANCHE, ALSO INTRODUCED IN 1964, PUG WAS ABLE TO BUILD HIMSELF A HOT-ROD IN
THE CLASSIC SENSE !!
LIKE A HOT-RODDER, HE MODIFIED AN EXISTING CHASSIS, AND
ADDED THE BIGGEST ENGINE AVAILABLE, IN THIS CASE, 2 IO-360 200 H.P. ENGINES IN A
SINGLE CASE, WITH A SINGLE CRANKSHAFT, MAKING AN IO-720, WITH 400 HORSEPOWER
!!
THE WAY I HEARD IT, HE FIGURED THAT IF HE STARTED WITH 400 H.P., HE WOULD
STILL HAVE 300 HORSEPOWER IN THE THIN AIR AT 10,000 FEET AND ABOVE, WHICH SHOULD
BE ENOUGH TO PUSH HIM QUICKLY THROUGH THAT THIN AIR !!
PRODUCED ONLY FOR 1964
AND PART OF 1965. PUG AND HIS CLOSE FRIENDS EACH GOT ONE, AND THEY MADE A FEW
MORE WHILE THEY WERE AT IT !!
TOTAL PRODUCTION WAS ONLY 146
NOT
SURPRISING, AS THIS IS A TAKE NO PRISONERS, ALL OUT SPEED MACHINE !!
MUCH HAS
BEEN MADE OF THE COOLING ISSUES ON THE 2 REAR CYLINDERS (CURED WITH MODERN
BAFFLE SEAL MATERIAL), AND THE FACT THAT THE AIRPLANE ONLY CRUISES AT 185 KNOTS
(THEY WERE HOPING FOR CLOSER TO 200)
THE REMAINING FLYING EXAMPLES TODAY
NUMBER ABOUT 50, AND MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY STOCK
BUT NOT THIS ONE
!!
THE OWNER OF THIS AIRPLANE WAS A MODIFICATION FREAK, AND HE DIDN"T CARE IF
HE WAS MESSING WITH A "CLASSIC", HE WANTED NTHE ULTIMATE AIRPLANE !!
THIS IS
THE ULTIMATE PRODUCTION SINGLE ENGINE AIRPLANE, THATS FOR SURE.
THE NAME ONE
THE TAIL SAYS IT
SUPER COMANCHE 400T !!!!
THE #1 MOD IS THE TWIN TURBO
SETUP !!
JUST LIKE THE TURBO AZTECS AND TURBO TWIN COMANCHE, THIS AIRPLANE
HAS A MANUAL CONTROL TO CLOSE THE DUAL WASTEGATES, ACTIVATING THE DUAL RAYJAY
TURBOCHARGERS !!
BESIDES SIMPLICITY, THE ADDED ADVANTAGE IS THAT YOU CONTROL
THE AMOUNT OF BOOST, SO YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT, NOT A FIXED AMOUNT. (SORT OF LIKE
A SECOND THROTTLE !!
THIS SYSTEM IS A TURBO-NORMALIZER, NOT A HIGH PRESSURE
TURBO. THE ADVANTAGE IS THAT THE BOOST IS LOWER, WHICH REDUCES HEAT AND REDUCES
STRAIN ON THE ENGINE COMPONENTS.
PERFORMANCE-WISE, A TURBO NORMALIZER GIVES
YOU BACK THE HORSEPOWER YOU LOSE WHEN YOU GO UP AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT THIN
AIR THE AIRFRAME LIKES SO MUCH !!
SO WHAT ABOUT A 400 COMANCHE WITH 400
HORSEPOWER UP TO 17,000 FEET?
IT IS A SCREAMER !!
JUST TO FINISH THE
AIRPLANE OFF, IT ALSO HAS:
FULL FLAP AND AILERON GAP SEALS
FLAP HINGE
FAIRINGS
SPEED SPAT MAIN GEAR FAIRINGS
NOSE GEAR SPAT
WING ROOT
FAIRINGS
ONE PIECE WINDSHIELD
CUSTOM ALCOHOL DEICED PROP WITH SLINGERS
AND 3 GALLON TANK !!
NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FASTEST PRODUCTION SINGLE
ENGINED AIRPLANE !!
BUT WAIT, WOULD TOP SPEED ALONE QUALIFY THIS AIRPLANE AS
A "SUPER COMANCHE"?
MAYBE
BUT WHAT IF YOU OCCASIONALLY LIKE TO GO
SLOW?
HOW WOULD YOU MAKE THE FASTEST AIRPLANE OUT THERE LAND SLOWER, SO YOU
COULD USE THOSE SHORT STRIPS?
YOU WOULD SPEND ANOTHER TON OF MONEY, AND ADD
THE FULL ROBERTSON STOL KIT TO IT !!!!!
WITH THE LEADING EDGE CUFF, STOL
FENCES, AND SPECIAL UPTURNED WINGTIPS (LIKE THE MOONEY ACCLAIM), THIS AIRPLANE
NOW LANDS AT 59 MPH !!
GROUND RUN ON TAKE-OFF IS 550 FEET !!
LANDING ROLL
IS 710 FEET !
ADD THAT TO THE SPEED, AND YOU ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT A "SUPER
COMANCHE" !!!
NICE INTERIOR, IN 2 TONE TAN, OLDER BUT LOOKS GOOD (NOT
WHORE-HOUSE RED VELOUR OR SADDLE BLANKET INSERTS LIKE MOST COMANCHES
!!
EVERYTHING YOU WOULD WANT FOR HIGH, FAST CROSS-COUNTRY TRAVEL
OPTIONAL
130 GALLON FUEL SYSTEM, ALL IN THE WINGS, NO TIP TANKS OR COMPLICATED SWITCHING
!!
4 PLACE OKYGEN, WITH 2 !! LARGE BOTTLES
ALCOHOL DEICE FOR THE PROP, 3
GALLON CAPACITY !!
CENTURY 3 AUTOPILOT, WITH ALTITUDE HOLD, RADIO COUPLING,
HEADING HOLD, GLIDESLOPE COUPLING, AUTOMATIC AND MANUAL ELECTRIC TRIM, AND
VERTICAL SPEED SELECT !!
KING KCS-55 HSI SYSTEM, SLAVED AND COUPLED TO
AUTOPILOT
WHAT IS THE DEAL? WHY IS THIS AIRPLANE PRICED AT LESS THAN 1/3 OF
IT"S VALUE AS THE MOST HEAVILY MODIFIED 400 ON THE MARKET ?
ELECTRICAL POWER
!!
THE PILOT OF THIS AIRPLANE CLAIMS HE HAD A TOTAL ELECTRICAL FAILURE IN
FLIGHT. UNABLE TO LOWER THE GEAR ELECTRICALLY, HE CRANKED IT DOWN PER THE
MANUAL, AND LANDED. THE AIRCRAFT LANDED NORMALLY, BUT ON THE RUNOUT, THE GEAR
RETRACTED.
I WASNT THERE, SO I DON"T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT WHEN I
WAS THERE THIS WEEK, I FLIPPED THE MASTER SWITCH, AND EVERYTHING LIT UP
!!
POSSIBLY THE WIRE THAT WIGGLED LOOSE, WIGGLED BACK AGAIN !!
REGARDLESS,
THIS AIRPLANE SUFFERED DAMAGE TO SOME OF THE FORWARD BELLY.
STARTING AT THE
FRONT, THE LOWER COWLING BOLT IN LOWER CENTER PANEL HAS SOME LIGHT SCRAPING,
SHOULD NOT REQUIRE REPLACEMENT
THE LEFT NOSE GEAR DOOR HAS A SCRAPE ON THE
AFT SIDE
THE RIGHT SIDE NOSE DOOR IS VERY LIGHTLY SCRAPED
THE FIREWALL IS
NOT DAMAGED
JUST AFT OF THE FIREWALL, (AFT OF THE NOSE WHEEL)THIS AIRPLANE
HAS A FIBERGLASS SPEED FAIRING, WHICH IS NOW WORN THROUGH. THE GOOD NEWS, IS
THAT THIS FIBERGLASS REDUCED THE DAMAGE THAT SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED WHEN THE BELLY
HIT THE TARMAC !!
AFT OF THE FAIRING, THERE IS SCRAPING DAMAGE TO SEVERAL OF
THE FORWARD BELLY SKINS., BUT THERE ARE SPOTS WERE ONLY THE RIVIT HEADS ARE
SCRAPED, NOT THE UNDERLYING SKIN !!
THE ONLY "HANGING LOOSE" SKIN IS SCREWED
ON, NOT RIVITED, AND THE UNDERLYING STRUCTURE IS NOT WORN THOUGH, JUST THIS
REMOVABLE PANEL, AND WITH SCREW REPLACEMENT. IT COULD BE USED
TEMPORARILY.
BOTH COWL FLAP DOORS ARE SCRAPED, BUT NOT WORN THROUGH, AND THEY
SHOULD NOT REQUIRE SKINNING, ONLY REPAINTING
THERE IS ONE FLAP HANGER BRACKET
ON THE LEFT WING THAT HAS SOME SCRAPING, BUT IT IS NOT WORN THROUGH. THE
FIBERGLASS FAIRINGS ON TWO HINGES HAVE SCRAPING. THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO THE
FLAPTHE PITOT TUBE IS SCRAPED, AND THE BRACKET BROKEN, BUT THE WING ISNT DAMAGED AT ALLIN FACT, NEITHER WING HAS ANY DAMAGE !!THE RIGHT WING, SURFACES, TIP AND HANGERS ARE UNDAMAGED !!
THE LEFT FIBERGLASS WINGTIP, WHICH IS THE LATEST, "UPSWEPT" STYLE, WITH
NAV/STROBE LIGHT COVERS, HAS A SLIGHT WEAR AREA ON THE TRAILING EDGE, AND THE
OUTBOARD EDGE SKIN ON THE LEFT AILERON IS SCRAPED.
THE FIBERGLASS CAP ON THE
LEFT HORIZONTAL IS SCRAPED THROUGH, AND THE LOWER SKIN IS SCRAPED TROUGH AT THE
REAR EDGE
THE TAIL TIE-DOWN RING IS PARTIALLY SCRAPED ON THE BOTTOM
BOTH
OF THE SHORT EXHAUST STACKS THAT COME OFF OF THE TURBOS ARE SCRAPED AND
FLATTENED ON THE ENDS, BUT THE HEAT MUFF AND ATTACHMENT POINTS BOTH LOOK
FINE
THE 3 BLADE HARTZELL PROPELLOR IS BENT ON ALL 3 BLADES, AS THE PROP
CONTINUED TO TURN AS THE AIRPLANE WENT DOWN. ENGINE WAS AT IDLE, OF
COURSE
NO DAMAGE TO THE POLISHED SPINNER OR DEICE SLINGERS
AS YOU CAN SEE
FROM THE PHOTOS, THE ENGINE IS A THING OF BEAUTY !!
DRESSED WITH CHROME VALVE
COVERS AND CHROME INTAKE TUBES, SUPER CLEAN AND DRY, ALL HOSES AND PLUMBING ARE
PERFECT !!
YOU CAN TELL THAT THE OWNER TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN SHOWING OFF THE 8
CYLINDER ENGINE, AND THE TWIN TURBO INSTALLATION !!
THE BEST THING IS THAT
THIS ENGINE ONLY HAS 374 HOURS SINCE MAJOR OVERHAUL !!
NO WONDER IT LOOKS SO
CLEAN !!
IN ADDITION TO THE INCLUDED ALTITUDE HOLD AUTOPILOT AND KING
KCS-55A HSI, THIS AIRPLANE HAS INSTALLED:
HORIZON DIGITAL TACH
8 PLACE DIGITAL
EGT/CHTDIGITAL FUEL FLOW/FUEL TOTALIZER
IN ADDITION, THE AIRPLANE IS WIRED FOR:
GARMIN AUDIO PANEL, GARMIN
530, GARMIN SL-30 NAV-COM, AND KING TRANSPONDER WITH ENCODER
THESE 4 UNITS
ARE NOT INCLUDED, BUT THE CONNECTORS ARE STILL COMPLETELY WIRED, NOTHING HAS
BEEN CUT.
PUT ANY OF THESE TYPE UNITS BACK IN, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, AS YOU
SEE FIT !!ALSO WIRED IS A PANEL DOCK FOR A GARMIN 696, THE BIG SCREEN GPS WITH MOVING MAP. BIGGER THAN THE G500 SCREEN, AND RIGHT WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT !! ALL WIRED AND READY TO SLIDE ONE IN !!
LOCATED IN NORTH CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA AT THE MOBRIDGE
AIRPORT.
WE WILL PAY THE TIE-DOWN FEES FOR 30 DAYS FROM THE END OF THE
AUCTION
SOLD WITH FAA BILL OF SALE, FAA AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE, AIRFRAME,
PROP AND ENGINE LOGBOOKS INCLUDED
I AM SURE SOMEONE WILL ASK ABOUT
FERRYABILITY.
WE DON"T DO THIS OURSELVES, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE RIGHT
PERSON COULD BRING A PROP, OPEN UP THE EXHAUST PIPES, TAPE AND SECURE THE LOOSE
PIECES, AND FLY OUT OF THERE THE SAME DAY.
THERE IS NOBODY AT THIS SMALL
FIELD TO DO ANY WORK ON IT, SO PLAN ON SENDING SOMEONE IF YOU CANT DO IT
YOURSELF
THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME CHANCE TO HAVE THE ULTIMATE FAST
AIRPLANE. AND NOT A GENERIC PIECE OF PLASTIC, BUT A TRUE 4 PLACE, (FULL FUEL
PLUS 710 LBS OF PEOPLE) ONE OF ONE !!!
ANYBODY WHO LIKES GOING FAST, WHO
COULD DO THE NEEDED REPAIRS THEMSELVES OR INEXPENSIVELY, AND THAT WOULD LIKE THE
ULTIMATE AIRPLANE FOR A FRACTION OF IT"S VALUE SHOULD BID ON THIS
AIRPLANE.
DON"T WAIT, THERE IS ONLY ONE !!
AS WENTWORTH AIRCRAFT IS LOCATED IN CRYSTAL,MINNESOTA, NOT……MOBRIDE,SD..…….. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PERSONALLY ASSIST WITH THE REPAIR OR MOVING OF THIS AIRPLANE SORRY. WENTWORTH AIRCRAFT DOES NOT OBTAIN REPAIR ESTIMATES, AS WE DO NOT REPAIR ANY OF OUR AIRPLANES. WE ONLY FACILITATE THE SALE OF REBUILDABLE AIRCRAFT TO THOSE DESIRING TO SAVE MONEY OR HAVE MORE AIRPLANE THAN OTHERWISE POSSIBLE FOR THE MONEY. REPAIR OF ANY AIRCRAFT WILL DEPEND ON MANY FACTORS, SUCH AS AVAILABILITY OF USED PARTS, LABOR RATE OF THE REPAIR FACILITY, FAMILIARITY WITH THE AIRCRAFT, ETC. AND WE WOULD NEVER PRESUME TO ESTIMATE THIS NUMBER FOR A BUYER. BEWARE OF THOSE WHO OBVIOUSLY GIVE UNREALISTICALLY LOW "ESTIMATES" FOR THE REPAIR OF THE DAMAGED AIRCRAFT THEY SELL. THIS ITEM IS BEING SOLD WITH A LOW RESERVE, THEREFORE WE FULLY EXPECT THIS LISTING WILL SELL TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER AT THE CLOSE OF THIS AUCTION, SO BID EARLY AND BID HIGH. THERE WILL BE NO CHANCE TO BUY THIS ITEM LATER!! AS WE SET OUR BUY-IT-NOW SO LOW, MANY OF OUR AIRPLANES SELL BY THIS METHOD BEFORE THE END OF THE AUCTION. DONT WAIT TOO LONG HOPING TO SNIPE IT AT THE END, AND BE DISAPPOINTED ! WENTWORTH AIRCRAFT INC IS THE #1 VOLUME SELLER IN THE USED AIRCRAFT MARKET! WE ARE THE REAL BRICK AND MORTAR WENTWORTH AIRCRAFT YOU HAVE SEEN ADVERTISED ON PAGE 6 OF TRADE-A-PLANE, AT OUR BOOTHS AT OSHKOSH, SUN-AND-FUN, AOPA, AND ELSEWHERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS !!!! WE HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SATISFIED CUSTOMERS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, SO WHEN YOU BUY AN ITEM THROUGH EBAY FROM US, YOU CAN BE ASSURED THAT WE WILL LIST ALL ITEMS AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT WE WILL ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS TRUTHFULLY. PLEASE ASK ALL QUESTIONS THROUGH THE LISTING(ASK SELLER A QUESTION), BECAUSE THESE QUESTIONS GET ANSWERED IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. PLEASE DON"T ASSUME. IF YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT ANY FACET OF ONE OF OUR LISTINGS, PLEASE ASK ! SO THAT ALL BIDDERS HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION,WE PREFER NOT TO ANSWER DETAIL QUESTIONS BY PHONE. OUR PHONE SALES STAFF HAS NO DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE ITEMS ON EBAY. DUE TO THE AUCTION FORMAT, IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR FOR THE HIGH BIDDER NOT TO BUY THE ITEM LISTED, SO TREAT YOUR BID LIKE A HANDSHAKE!! YOUR BID IS NOT A RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, BUT RATHER A CONTRACT TO BUY OUR AIRPLANE AT YOUR BID PRICE SO BE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, AND FUNDSIN PLACE. A NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT OF $2,000 IS DUE WITHIN 72 HOURS OF THE BID CLOSING. WE PREFER PAYPAL FOR THIS DEPOSIT, BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYPAL, LET US KNOW, AND WE WILL HELP YOU FIND AN ALTERNATIVE. THE BALANCE OF THE PAYMENT IS DUE WITHIN 7 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF BID CLOSE. THESE FUNDS CAN BE BY WIRE TRANSFER, BANK OR CASHIERS CHECK, CASH, OR ANY COMBINATION. FULL PAYMENT IS DUE BY TIME STATED, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE VIEWED THE AIRCRAFT. BID ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THIS LISTING, AND BE SURE TO CLICK "SEE SELLERS OTHER AUCTIONS" OR SEARCH WENTWORTHAIRCRAFTINC IN SELLERS,FOR MORE ITEMS YOU NEED OR WANT!
Current date: 2015-09-11